Or rather, I wish I didn't have any articles on it, because I could care less that they're trying to "clean it up". The way they're going about it is completely asinine unless pissing off random authors is an item on their checklist.
Just today, I received a third message for their ongoing war on users:
Hi NeilO,You're welcome, asshats. I wish I could thank you for souring my day, but the only recourse you've given me is to jump into your forums. The email itself is sent from a randomly generated address that cannot be responded to, and of course the sender is a "faceless corporation" signing off with the team name. Sarcasm kicking in: I'm sure the "team" is behind this, because last I heard there was no techs left on it.
As you may have noticed, we have been making great strides to clean up the eHow article library. This ongoing process is to improve the quality of the site and ensure that we are providing the best resource to our visitors looking to learn and accomplish a task. This email has been sent to you because one or more of your articles have been removed from your account for violating eHow submission guidelines. Please find a list of all affected titles below with reasons for removal next to each of them.
- Title: How to Eat Hot Dogs, Reason: Blog/Opinion
- Title: How to Properly Watch Family Guy, Reason: Common Sense
- Title: How to Reach Movie Stardom, Reason: OTHER
- Title: How to Sleep in ASP using ADO
- Title: How to Use a Restroom Incorrectly, Reason: Not In How To Format
- Title: How to Watch Michael Moore Movies, Reason: Common Sense
Note: If the reason provided says "Legacy Rejections," this means that the article was moderated and deemed unsuitable during a time when reasons for removal were not marked on articles. Furthermore, if you see the word "Other" as a reason, then the article had many violations and could not be listed.
eHow.com is known for its reliable online solutions and in order to protect the reputation of the site and our highly regarded community, we must ensure that everyone is adhering to the eHow submission guidelines. To get a thorough knowledge of our submission guidelines, please click here for more information. If you'd like to discuss any issues related to this article sweep, please join our Forum discussion.
Thank you for your understanding.
-The eHow Team
Now I'll be the first to admit these articles aren't tutorial gold, but the content wasn't bad. I would show you that, I really wish I could republish them somewhere, but the wonderful "eHow Team" destroys without recourse and so I am left with a tombstone and no body. Their reasoning for purging these articles will no doubt apply to all but the money-makers left in my profile, and thus I have no choice but to remove all of them myself. That is the only way I can be sure that I can keep what I wrote.
Let's go through these reasons one by one so I can gain some small satisfaction in slamming them.
- Title: How to Eat Hot Dogs, Reason: Blog/Opinion
No argument here, that was an opinion. At the time there was no rules against posting a how-to that had a personality. Sure, I'm telling you how to eat hot dogs by my standards, preferred condiments, cooking style, and so on, but how is that a bad thing? I wonder if this has anything to do with them locking the titles down so only one article can have a particular title? In that case, I probably wasn't selling enough wieners.
- Title: How to Properly Watch Family Guy, Reason: Common Sense
Wrong! As they say on HN or Slashdot: RTFA. This one was subjective too, and had to do with the method I instructed not the result. The process of how to do something is just as important as the result. In this case I prescribed bacon, mojitos, and friends who knew the show and the quotes
- Title: How to Reach Movie Stardom, Reason: OTHER
Wow, I just wrote this one a couple months ago, quite honestly to promote FanSiter. I spent some time on it, wrote quite a bit of material, and produced a workable theory on a way to become an actor celebrity. They give no reason, because they have no grounds for removing the article. There is no rule to linking back to a site with more information regardless of if you own it or not. In this case, I linked back to a survey I did through Mechanical Turk: 9 Ways to Stardom.
- Title: How to Sleep in ASP using ADO
This is great. They leave off the reason entirely, because I created this soley for the good of the programming community after spending time searching for the answer. I conclude it simply didn't make money and therefore took up unnecessary bandwidth. Don't worry eHow, next time I'll put useful information for software engineers on StackOverflow.
- Title: How to Use a Restroom Incorrectly, Reason: Not In How To Format
I have no way to refute this claim, but it sounds fishy. I vaguely remember writing this based on co-workers bathroom stories at Demand Media. Maybe it hit too close to home? My personal, albeit generally flawed, recollection is a series of increasingly ridiculous actions (put in their step format) one could take to do their business wrong. Purely comedic value, but Orwellian societies don't appreciate amusement structured on their system.
- Title: How to Watch Michael Moore Movies, Reason: Common Sense
Duh, RTFA again. I wrote this, because his new movie was coming out and it was an attempt to be topical and see if any views would come of it. I'm not sad it went, but cripes man: it wasn't any more about seeing the movie than listening is about hearing someone talk.
Now with that all over with, I can try to get something useful out of my day. However, I do leave off with the advice that you never write anything for eHow.com, at least under its current management. That is, unless, you don't care about being harassed or losing work. I suppose, then, if you are in the business of writing opinionated, spammy articles for monetary gain alone you need not have any qualms. They are an untrustworthy but well-indexed money-making platform. For honest folk, go hit up WikiHow or Yahoo! Answers.


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Ahhhhh ... purge complete.
I figured out how to delete articles and did as much to the remaining 33 under my profile. There goes the $15 to $25 a month I would normally get from leaving them there, but I am tired of their crap.
One interesting thing I encountered: "How to Use a Restroom Incorrectly" was still listed in my profile, but clicking it redirected to another article that wasn't mine.
waaaaahhhh
Even though I got a confirmation email from eHow support about my account removal (email member.service@ehow.com and specify your full name, account name, and and email address plus put "Delete Account" in the subject), they still sent me this today:
Hi NeilO,
We are resending the message below because a few members reported that they did not receive reason codes for their removed articles in the message sent on Tuesday.
As you may have noticed, we have been making great strides to clean up the eHow article library. This ongoing process is to improve the quality of the site and ensure that we are providing the best resource to our visitors looking to learn and accomplish a task. This email has been sent to you because one or more of your articles have been removed from your account for violating eHow submission guidelines. Please find a list of all affected titles below with reasons for removal next to each of them.
- Title: How to Eat Hot Dogs, Reason: Blog/Opinion
- Title: How to Properly Watch Family Guy, Reason: Common Sense
- Title: How to Reach Movie Stardom, Reason: OTHER
- Title: How to Sleep in ASP using ADO, Reason: Poorly Written
- Title: How to Use a Restroom Incorrectly, Reason: Not In How To Format
- Title: How to Watch Michael Moore Movies, Reason: Common Sense
Wow, so I get a nice little extra jab with the ASP/ADO article. Thanks guys!
I have to admit, I only used ehow as a source of easy income when I lost my regular job. If you know enough SEO and can write on hot topics, you can clear $500+ a month with brain-dead articles that only take 15 minutes to write.
I think their efforts to clean up the site is admirable, considering how much crap was on the site pre-sweeps, much of it contributed by people who make the big bucks. But eHow's way of doing it is pretty dirty and underhanded.
Perhaps it's appropriate payback considering how dirty and underhanded you have to be to make good money with eHow (writing articles that are purposely bad or wrong so that visitors will click on an ad to escape from it). Only time will tell if the clean up process results in a more respectable site, or if it drives away contributors, and they end up cancelling the WPC program altogether.
One thing that is for sure is that how-tos with "personality" are getting the axe. Only Demand Studios writers can contribute those articles now, not regular eHow writers. Demand Studios writers are paid a flat fee of $15 per article.
Anyway, good luck with your endeavors, and thanks for sharing your insights.
@truck: Yup, they're going from user-created to walled-garden in order to control the content end-to-end. I should disclaim that I only made between $15 and $25 a month on my entire set of ~40 articles, so it I wasn't pissed about losing beer money so much as the manner of their crusade.
Apparently canceling your account doesn't stop you from being harassed. First, here's the email response I got from that process back on October 7th:
Re:Delete Account (EH00035621)
Hi,
We are sorry to see you leave, but per your request, your account NeilO has been deactivated.
Best,
eHow Team
www.eHow.com
Ah, deactivated, which means my account still exists. I will try to email them again. Here's a message I got a few days ago on November 11th:
Hi NeilO,
As you may have noticed, we have been making great strides to clean up the eHow article library. This ongoing process is to improve the quality of the site and ensure that we are providing the best resource to our visitors who are looking to learn and accomplish a task.
However, we do have some great news! After this round of our clean up, we will have a new communication method in place. This process will allow us to deliver "article clean up" notifications on a weekly basis. The staff at eHow.com understand the frusturation of having articles removed after they have been on the site for a long period of time. With this new process, we can notify our members of any article removals shortly after they've been published on the site.
For your reference, this email has been sent to you because one or more of your articles have been removed from your account for violating eHow submission guidelines. Please click on the link below to find a list of all affected titles with reasons for removal next to each of them.
http://www.ehow.com/_test/datran.aspx?username=NeilO
Note: If the reason provided says "Legacy Rejections," this means that the article was moderated and deemed unsuitable during a time when reasons for removal were not marked on articles. Furthermore, if you see the word "Other" as a reason, then the article had many violations and could not be listed.
eHow.com is known for its reliable online solutions and in order to protect the reputation of the site and our highly regarded community, we must ensure that everyone is adhering to the eHow submission guidelines.
To get a thorough knowledge of our submission guidelines, please click here for more information. If you'd like to discuss any issues related to this article sweep, please join our Forum discussion.
Thank you for your understanding.
-The eHow Team
This is definitely an improvement: more communication is good. However, the link was obviously broken (just looking at the URL you can tell it won't go anywhere correct), there is a minor misspelling of "frustration" which makes me wonder if they grok the word (wink wink), and their process is still removal with the added benefit of getting notified right away (yay?).
Finally, another email came through yesterday evening nearing 6pm on November 13th:
Hi NeilO,
Our apologies for sending out our initial email without a working a link directing to your article list. We hope this email will find its way into your inbox and provide you with the information you are looking for.
We are resending this message because a few members reported they did not receive reason codes for their removed articles in the message sent on Tuesday. As you may have noticed, we have been making great strides to clean up the eHow article library. This ongoing process is to improve the quality of the site and ensure that we are providing the best resource to our visitors looking to learn and accomplish a task. However, we do want to provide our community with quicker communication. Our goal is to notify you of "clean up" affected articles sooner than later (we're aiming to provide notifications on a weekly basis), so the impact will be less of an inconvenience in the future.
This email has been sent to you because one or more of your articles have been removed from your account for violating eHow submission guidelines. Please find a list of all affected titles in the link below with reasons for removal next to each of them.
http://www.ehow.com/_test/datran.aspx?username=NeilO
Note: If the reason provided says "Legacy Rejections," this means that the article was moderated and deemed unsuitable during a time when reasons for removal were not marked on articles. Furthermore, if you see the word "Other" as a reason, then the article had many violations and could not be listed.
eHow.com is known for its reliable online solutions and in order to protect the reputation of the site and our highly regarded community, we must ensure that everyone is adhering to the eHow submission guidelines.
To get a thorough knowledge of our submission guidelines, please click here for more information. If you'd like to discuss any issues related to this article sweep, please join our Forum Discussion.
Thank you for your understanding.
-The eHow Team
As much as that URL looks bogus, it actually went somewhere. And hey, they finally removed the two articles I made that were actually just experiments in driving traffic and centering around a product respectively (SPAM and SPAM). I shouldn't be upset, but WTF -- isn't my account deactivated and I deleted my articles already!
Ugh, I must resist tearing apart some of these reasons. OTHER!? Those two marked other were both relatively popular and well-rated. Ah whatever, moving on, nothing to see here ...
eHow and the parent company Demand Studios/Demand Media are total bullshit. The content is for cretins who shouldn't be attempting even a fraction of the projects explained on the site.
ehow owns wikihow!I'm boycotting both!!I read somewhere that a new How-to network was starting next year!If they start - I'm signing up!
FUCK eHOW!!!
should i try and find the new networks name for you guys?
htt://www.howzur.com
I think Ehow Sucks because you Can't Comment on the Topics Without an Account. I don't want to Open an Ehow Account just to give my opinion on Something that is supposed to Help People why cant I just make a Comment using my Facebook or Twitter Profile on ehow
I tried publishing an article today and found nothing but bugs and even a "ghost article" about cigars that magically appeared in place of my draft article. Then poof it was gone...very creepy. The forums are loaded with bug complaints again. It's getting to be too much trouble to deal with so I'm also trying Infobarrel and Xomba. Sorry to say though that ehow is the site I've made the most money on so far. It's a shame that they get so much traffic and can't even keep the publishing process running smoothly for us.
This is great. I joined with them 2 days ago and flicked out 6 or so ehows. Made a couple of comments in the forum - nice ones.
I got slammed by members big time. Wow I cannot believe the ignorance and rudeness. I am now considering not doing any more 'cause they seem to have big problems with members. Also I don't like how you have to be a member to comment. Too close shopped.
Also they are slow at uploading articles and you cannot change your profile.
Seems they have some big problems. If you want to be a member forget it. If you want something smarter, more streamlined and more friendly to be a part of go to Squidoo.
What in the world happened to the video posting option? All of a sudden it's gone. Is this supposed to be telling us something?
eHow clearly has it's issues. I blog about them all the time. Do I correctly understand you used to work inside ehow?
I just read through the posts that were deleted from your ehow account. There is really no traffic for those keywords, and there certainly is no competition. This means the CPC will be low (very very low) and your articles won't really get found.
Rather, use titles with high traffic keywords with more competition. You will notice a HUGE turnaround in income and page views. Hope this helps!
As far as the writers for ehow go, ehow.com is a site written by morons for morons to read. The content is pathetic at best. I'm convinced the average writer is a junior high baby sitter trying to leverage her/his time and income.
Eventually all of the writers will be screwed as ehow and other article sites get blasted by google because they filled up the first page of search results with garbage that costs google credibility. IT IS ALREADY HAPPENING!
So one day all those grass hut tycoons writing from various banana republics will wake up on page 5 of the google results... then have to go get real jobs.
The rest of the legitimate internet will not be sad to see them go.
ehow is a giant sleazy spam machine whoring itself out to the likes of the equally slimy servicemagic,CON
by the way, I found you on the front page of google while seaching for ehow sucks of course! In closing, I will leave a colorful tag line that google will pick up and get more readers to your page.
Ehow sucks the ehow sucks out of dead donkeys ehow sucks money from IDIOT EHOW sucks WRITERS for ehow sucks are losers
enjoy!
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